Friday, October 24, 2014

Yet again, and the mob howls

There are gun-related 2 bills up for a vote here in Washington.

I-591 would forbid gun confiscation without due process and would restrict state background checks to simply conform to federal law. It is supported by law enforcement, shooting associations, and gun rights groups.

I-594, touted as simply requiring background checks for gun sales, would require background checks on any "transfer" of a gun from one person to another. The way this bill is written, if my neighbor, whom I’ve known for decades, wants to show me the pistol he got off of a dead NVA officer in Vietnam, we would have to go to a gun shop, get a background check on me, and only if I passed could he hand the gun to me to look at. THEN, to hand it back, by the strict letter of the law, we'd have to reverse the process. It is supported by Bloomberg, various anti-rights groups, and most leftist politicians who have the courage to comment, thoiugh many will not touch gun rights issues.

Lately the Seattle Times has run a series on lead poisoning at local gun ranges. I know that is a big issue, but the pieces are written to make the ranges look as bad as possible. Thing is, the online articles are mal-formatted so that comments, while allowed, are not possible. This was a multi-part series over a number of days, and the mal-formatting continued with each installment.

Now this shooting.

Before we knew ANYTHING about the details, the pro I-594 crowd was howling that we need to pass that bill and that anyone against it was in favor of dead kids. Of course, nobody could detail how the bill would have prevented this atrocity. Simply, it likely would not have, as has been the case for pretty much all these shootings, not to mention the Islamists in Canada lately.

Bottom line to me is this:

The way we have raised kids for decades, and the policies we have implemented, have bred many monsters. The answer, to the fools, is to first blame those who advocate different ways of child rearing and different policies, and call names. Then, enact additional laws and policies that perpetuate the failure, but have faith that this time, things will be different and will work out well.

So far, the shooter, 14, and another student are dead, three others in very bad shape. The shooter’s tweets make him to look like a sex crazed, angry kid. Over the next weeks, we’ll get to know much more about this kid, his family life, and background.
Teach your children well and hold them close.


C said...

A group of us were talking about the workplace violence in NYC this morning.
A rag head convert took after four cops with a hatchet.
All in our group could remember the time when nut cases were routinely incarcerated to protect the other other 99% of the population. That is sound public policy.
Why the hell was this kid running loose? Bleeding hearts?
Oh, I forgot, if we could just take away all the guns.
Why not do something effective and lock up the nut cases instead?

Xavier said...

... and in other non-news, hardly a word about the grandfather who saved his granddaughter from gang rape and stopped 3 robbers in their tracks because he was armed and ready.

Could have been very possibly a life saving move but at the very least it saved his granddaughter and wife from further attack and got 3 villains off the street. Until some bleeding heart finds a way to get 'em off 'cause they're misunderstood.

jim marquis said...

Funny how the pro-gun folks always use the sentimental example of a father handing his gun down to his son but never mention the two strangers meeting up in a parking lot.

CrabbyOldMan said...

Funny how people like Malarkey use the example of nut cases going berserk with a firearm, but always ignore the nutcase with a hatchet.
Or baseball bat.
Or kitchen knife.
Or box cutter.
Or automobile.
Malarkey and his ilk apparently lack the mental horsepower to grasp that it is the PERSON using the inanimate object that is the problem, not the object itself.

jim marquis said...

So, are you telling me there are baseball bat, kitchen knife, box cutter and automobile massacres occurring all the time around the world in countries that have stronger gun laws?

Bram said...

Jim - Your ignorance is hilarious.

Yes - There have been numerous murders and rampages in China by people with meat cleavers and other tools.

My son will inherit my gun collection - several of which I inherited from my grandfathers and one of which my father-in-law brought home from the Pacific. And no, I won't seek state permission.

CrabbyOldMan said...

Malarkey, I am reminded of how the strict gun controls in New York and Chicago have driven the murder rates down.

CrabbyOldMan said...


Zelda said...

"Funny how the pro-gun folks always use the sentimental example of a father handing his gun down to his son but never mention the two strangers meeting up in a parking lot."

Who cares? Owning a gun is a Constitutional right. Murdering people with one isn't, and that is already very, very illegal.

"So, are you telling me there are baseball bat, kitchen knife, box cutter and automobile massacres occurring all the time around the world in countries that have stronger gun laws?"

Yes. Not only is this documentable, how else do you explain the comparable murder rates? Why do you think the UK is seeking to ban fucking kitchen knives?

CrabbyOldMan said...


CrabbyOldMan said...

I’d say that this is outrageous even for The New York Times!

On the fox News Page today: “With tensions running high in Ferguson over the lack of an indictment for Wilson’s killing of Michael Brown, the paper has published the officer’s approximate address -- the street and town where he lives with his new wife, who also is named.”

CrabbyOldMan said...


BEIJING – Chinese state media say 15 people have been killed in an attack in the country's troubled western Xinjiang region.
The official Xinhua News Agency says 14 other people were injured in what it said was a terrorist attack Friday in Shache county.
The Tianshan news portal said Saturday that the attackers used vehicles, knives and explosives in the assault. It said the dead included 11 of the attackers.
Such attacks have claimed dozens of lives in Xinjiang over the past year. Members of the region's Muslim Uighur minority group have bristled under what they say is repressive Chinese government rule

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