Wednesday, March 13, 2013

Actually Balance the Budget?!

97 comments:

CrabbyOldMan said...

Neither the Messiah nor any of His Disciples are interested in FACTS.

rbb said...

So, Ryan, after him and his partner got their gop asses whooped in the election, has come out with a plan that is worse for Americans than the plan he got his ass whooped over?

Nutters crack me up.

Don't forget to catch up on all things gop at: http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/

rbb said...

"This is something we will not give up on because we are not going to give up on destroying the healthcare system for the American people"

Paul "total doooooosh gop" Ryan

Haverwilde said...

rbb just loves slinging his monkey shit.
When a democrat comes up with a plan to balance the budget let me know, because I want to watch the pigs fly and hell freeze.

CrabbyOldMan said...

Haverwilde:
Why do you think that I call him reliably blathers bilge?

Rickvid in Seattle said...

I hear Obama is coming up with his own budget. Wonder if this one will get even one, 1, a single vote, before Skelator Reid and the Dem Senate ignore the law and, yet again, fail to pass a budget?

Hoss said...

rbb: "Look at me, look at me...." He's the male version of kate in maine, just change the spit thing for "nutters crack me up." I'll bet his own mom even thinks he's a piece of shit.

Freemom said...

His budget was due February 4. However, he was very busy..Hawaii, Golf in Fla...touring around the country...now if I missed a deadline like that I would be fired...I cannot even miss quarter close let alone annual budget. not Free...he did not sign out.

rbb said...

Secret gop plan exposed by convicted gop tax cheat:

“It is good politics to oppose the black guy in the White House right now, especially for the Republican Party”

http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/2013/03/14/sc-gop-found-guilty-of-tax-evasion-197-exposes-gop-philosophy-it-is-good-politics-to-oppose-the-black-guy-in-the-white-house-right-now/

Now what, nutters?

Freemom said...

President Obama does not think we need a balanced budget because he is unbalanced.

Zelda said...

Linkity link link. No one's reading them Rbb. You are the only one. And it's because you're crazy.

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CrabbyOldMan said...

Enemas! You HAVE to use at least a little water! The hose won't do anything by itself!

CrabbyOldMan said...

reliably blathers bilge has a lot of gall talking about hustlers, thieves and tax cheats in the REPUBLICAN party when a least one of those things is a requirement to be a Disciple.

Wage Slave said...

and I get questioned for wanting to have a 'discussion'? Do you ever say anything useful old man?

CrabbyOldMan said...

Wage Slave:
So post something that can actually be discussed. That would be something based on facts and logic.
I leave it to the others to judge whether or not what I have to say is "useful".

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Enemas, tell the truth now. You must be the Messiah's speech writer. Where else could that much shit come from?

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CrabbyOldMan said...

Enemas! You’d better clean off the teleprompters before Comrade Hussein sees them. He’s going to be mighty pissed if you don’t. Be more careful for your own good!

rbb said...

“We do not have an immediate debt crisis"

gop Speaker of the House, Third in line for the Presidency, John 'don't call me orange' Boehner


Crabs, did you catch the 1/2 term quitter Palin telling a President Obama teleprompter joke while reading from the teleprompter?

Oh SeePAP, thanks for the memories.

CrabbyOldMan said...

reliably blathers bilge:
It is all in how you define "immediate". If you say it is today, Wednesday or perhaps Friday, then there is no "immediate crisis". If you say it is impossible to pinpoint, but surely not so very far into the future, then it is "immediate".
I don't think that you can find an instance of me clapping for Boehner. On the other hand I consider him to be far better than any of the Disciples. As an example, look at Woodrow’s choice for Secretary of Labor.
I didn’t know Palin was running for anything. I have been consistent in saying that she makes a great fundraiser/cheerleader, but not a strong candidate. That said, she must have something that provokes such insane fear and loathing among leftards.

rbb said...

Crabs, do you clap for Ryan?

CrabbyOldMan said...

reliably blathers bilge:
Much louder and longer than for Boehner.
None of the politicians I favor are perfect by any means, but all are infinitely better than Comrade Hussein or his commissars.

rbb said...

Well then stand up and cheer, crabs!

Paul Ryan Tells CBS’ Bob Schieffer ‘We Do Not Have A Debt Crisis’
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/paul-ryan-tells-cbs-bob-schieffer-we-do-not-have-a-debt-crisis/

Haverwilde said...

rbb, What an asshole you are.

The quote: "So we do not have a debt crisis right now but we see it coming. We know it’s irrefutably happening and the point we’re trying to make with our budget is let’s get ahead of this problem,” Ryan said.

COB was way ahead of you when he commented on the definition of immediate. Ryan is also correct.

Will you as a fucking liberal fascist admit for once that a crisis is coming and that something needs to happen?
It really is relatively easy to fix. But it is not without pain. The American economy went from the Government spending 44% of the GDP to 17% without a recession at the end of WWII. The way that happens is by enabling the private sector to work.
Your Liberal Fascist President is set on enabling the public sector to grow, while destroying the middle class and regulating the private sector.

Zelda said...

Rbb/Paul can't even get out of context quotes right.

rbb said...

How quickly you've turned you back on your hero deficit spender.

“Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter.”

Dick


Suck it up, nutters.

Presidential debate 101: Did Obama really double the deficit?

During the arithmetical dodge ball that constituted much of the first debate, Mitt Romney said the US deficit 'doubled' under Obama. In fact, it has declined, though it is still more than $1 trillion.


http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/Decoder-Wire/2012/1005/Presidential-debate-101-Did-Obama-really-double-the-deficit

CrabbyOldMan said...

reliably blathers bilge:
You can quote out of context, parse words and slip and slide until the cows come home but CANNOT address the simple facts.
The left consists of a mix of knaves and fools who cannot or will not admit that their economic policies are ruinous over the long run. Their acceptance as a matter of faith (absolutely NOT the facts) that poverty can somehow be redistributed away has been demonstrated to be as false as their fairy tale pacifism.
You’re such an ignorant turd.

rbb said...

Crabs, that's simply not true.

Ya know, the easiest way to debunk a nutter's claim is to look it up.

So, look it up, Crabs.

See under which party's President our country's deficit shrank, and which party gave us more.

You can start with the number 189%, if you like.

Good luck!

Don't forget to check out Camp Liberty's Freedom Blog for all things gop.

The gop criminal count is up to 216 in just 15 months!

What a party!


CrabbyOldMan said...

reliably blathers bilge is still reliably blathering bilge.

Google led me to this informative site: National Debt of the United States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_States

The chart that most directly challenges reliably blathering bilge’s bilge is here for those who don’t want to wade through the whole article:
U.S. Public Debt Ceiling 1981-2010
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_Public_Debt_Ceiling_1981-2010.png

I draw attention to this key paragraph:
Contrary to popular belief, reducing the debt burden (i.e., lowering the ratio of debt relative to GDP) is almost always accomplished without running budget surpluses. The U.S. has only run surpluses in four of the past 40 years (1998-2001) but had several periods where the debt to GDP ratio was lowered. This was accomplished by growing GDP (in real terms and via INFLATION (Crabby’s emphasis) relatively faster than the increase in debt.

Need anyone point out that the government has been madly printing money under the Messiah’s “leadership”?

Roboto said...

Is really boring boob REALLY that dumb, or is it a masochist? It keeps coming back to provide a convenient illustration of the Left's insane groupthink 'mind'set and lack of ability to face reality.

I think that it really IS that dumb.

rbb said...

Oh that Clinton, what a guy, huh Crabs? Lowering the debt like that. What did bush do as soon as he got in, he gave it all away.

Crabs, here's a few sections that stood out for me

Between 1940 and January 2013, the debt ceiling was raised 54 times during Republican presidential administrations and 40 times during Democratic administrations. The ceiling was raised the most times (18) during President Reagan's administration, with no other President exceeding 10 times. During President Obama's first term, the ceiling was raised six times.[65]

CBO estimated in August 2011 that if laws currently "on the books" were enforced without changes, meaning the "extended baseline scenario" described above is implemented along with deficit reductions from the Budget Control Act of 2011, the deficit would decline from 8.5% GDP in 2011 to around 1% GDP by 2021.[90]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_States

Did you find out anything about that 189% number yet, Crabs?

free0352 said...

Oh that Clinton, what a guy, huh Crabs? Lowering the debt like that.

Cool, then I'm sure you'd agree to go back to the government spending levels of 1999 right?

rbb said...

Sure, if you don't call it "gutting the military".

rbb said...

Cool, then I'm sure you'd agree to go back the the government taxing levels of 1999, right?

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Haverwilde said...

rbb, the debt has never gone down!

But yes, it would be a great trade, in exchange for 1999 spending levels, the 1999 taxing would be quite acceptable.

Zelda said...

Oh don't bother rbb with economic information. All he really cares about is marrying his long suffering, fur encrusted boyfriend.

If Obama said he was in favor of torture, rape, murder, and anarchy, rbb would still be out their shakin' that ass for him.

CrabbyOldMan said...

RE: Crabs, that's simply not true. Ya know, the easiest way to debunk a nutter's claim is to look it up.
So, look it up, Crabs. See under which party's President our country's deficit shrank, and which party gave us more.

I did. You should actually read the chart I pointed out. If it is too challenging to do the math in your head, go to the third chart from the top. That one specifically ties the debt level to GDP. I thought that since the debt is now at 100% of GDP, most would just do the rest of the math in their head.
You should try to stay focused. You apparently instead stopped to see Enemas to have your head filled up because the rest of what you posted is pure shit.
Your quoteBetween 1940 and January 2013… does not include this information in the chart: The total amount of all increases and the incremental amount of each individual increase. The differences between the Reagan and the Messiah’s administrations are pretty stark. Then there is the matter of who controlled congress. After all, it is legislative, not the executive branch, that sets the debt limit.
I don’t know what the hell you were trying to prove by the paragraph CBO estimated in August 2011…My first question is how much would have been due to inflation and how much would be due to real inflation adjusted economic growth. If you do not know the 1923 Germany story, I urge you to learn it, since the Chicagocrats have the presses running full speed.
I remind you that the GOP’s main argument is that we need both economic growth (real inflation adjusted growth) and spending cuts to solve the debt problem. In contrast, Comrade Hussein’s policies stifle growth and neither he nor any of the commissars have any interest in actually reducing spending.

CrabbyOldMan said...

Enemas! Since you have clearly been overmedicating, it is going to take several days for that dripping to stop. That’s even taking into account that reliably blathers bilge, Nit, Malarkey and Wage Slave all stop by a little more often to have their head filled.

rbb said...

Crabs, if you could be a more wrong, I'd be surprised.

CrabbyOldMan said...

Reliably blathers bilge, if you could me more delusional, I’d be surprised.

Anonymous said...

(not really anon~ this is Johnny)

Get over it rbb and the rest of you libs, the GOP did NOT get the ASSES kicked. True, we lost, but there is no getting around the fact that amongst the people of this country that actually CONTRIBUTE to the betterment of the world, that the GOP won by a handy margin. It took the worthless scum of the world, the free-loaders, to put your man over the top. If I were you I'd quit your bragging, you're in the company of losers.

Anonymous said...

Johnny, you lost because you call the average American "the worthless scum of the world, the free-loaders" when in reality this would describe all corporations and their CEOs who are thrilled to have idiots like you cheering for their corruption.

CrabbyOldMan said...

Enemas, the Republicans lost because of a number of reasons, the importance of which are not necessarily in the following order: The Republicans brought a rubber hose to a knife fight. The Chicagocrats are the masters of gerrymandering and voter fraud. The Chicagocrats are far more skilled at rallying their base. The Chicagocrats are far better at financing their activities with fraudulently obtained taxpayer money.
The fact is that the parasites, fools and adolescents are a large minority, but not large enough to win an election. It is the other factors that pushed the Chicagocrats over the top.

Anonymous said...

Since you don't pay attention to facts or polls you might not realize that you lost because the old rich white man is no longer in control, and that is who you still count as your "base"...you can't insult people and expect them to vote for you, it doesn't work that way. I don't see how Chicago is more corrupt then the Bush ranch and all who live there.

CrabbyOldMan said...

RE: I don't see how Chicago is more corrupt then the Bush ranch and all who live there.

OH GAWD!

Clearly "facts and polls" are not among your strengths (if you have any).

Roboto said...

I don't see how Chicago is more corrupt then the Bush ranch and all who live there.

Of course you don't. That tells us all we need to know about your tenuous hold on reality.

Anonymous said...

Roboto,
just look at some of your old postings, clearly you are in your own "reality". No wonder you're so afraid of everything, I've read that medication can sometimes help people like you.

CrabbyOldMan said...

Enemas, if I were you, I would sweep off my own doorstep first.

Anonymous said...

If I addressed people as "Enemas" I would "sweep off my own doorstep first."

Roboto said...

I've read that medication can sometimes help people like you.

If that's what you get from my posts, I have serious doubts about your ability to read anything.

Anonymous said...

Oh, brother. Republicans lost because no one wanted ANOTHER cowardly chicken hawk in charge of our military again. Except people who are also cowards. That Zelda seems very strange. What's going through that mind?

It is more than apparent that republicans are already on several medications and are drinking.

CrabbyOldMan said...

Enemas, you really are supposed to take meds, aren't you?
If you are not, you may want to show your posts to your therapist. If you don’t have a therapist, you may want to find one.

Anonymous said...

Crabs: you are an original thinker. Don't let anyone tell you that you aren't.

Anonymous said...

Could Ryan have a dumber look on his face? He is questioning himself after almost losing his congressional district and not even carrying Wisconsin for the tax evader.

CrabbyOldMan said...

Enemas! THAT was a clincher! It sure sold me on the idea of not having any budget at all!

Anonymous said...

To have a budget that goes after poor and middle class people doesn't really take any brains at all. No wonder he was able to patchwork one together from other old republican budgets.

Roboto said...

To have a budget that goes after poor and middle class people doesn't really take any brains at all.

And it takes even fewer brains to mindlessly claim that debunked Democrat talking point. If you truly want "goes after poor and middle class people", let me introduce you to the PPACA.

Zelda said...

Oh please. Obama hates the middle class. He's funneled money to his rich, white, corporate cronies and he's said all the right buzzwords to the poor and agitated, but the middle class? Forget it. He hates the middle class.

Anonymous said...

Why would you care if Obama funnels money to rich, white corporate cronies. I thought those were republicans favorite kind of people. Aren't they the people who work the hardest and deserve everything? You are right; republicans are definitely the champions of the middle class. There is nothing debunked in stating that once again Ryan has presented a pathetic warmed over budget. The guy can't think of a new idea. If we are lucky, in a two years he won't be able to be elected dog catcher.

Zelda said...

I thought those were republicans favorite kind of people.

That's because you are unbearably stupid. They are government's favorite kind of people. You're an idiot if you think the Democrats are any different than Republicans when it comes to corporate welfare. The Democrats laugh at your stupidity and capitalize on it all the way to the rich, white banks.

Anonymous said...

Zelda, Zelda, Queen of BS: your blood pressure is going through the roof. Put down the Cheez Wiz can and take a deep breath.

CrabbyOldMan said...

I am repeating my post @ 2:51 under MMGWTWDTPAKUA! Freezing Us.

Enemas, are you involuntarily hospitalized?

Zelda said...

See what happens when the government lets them have computers? Suddenly it's all Jesus and blood pressure and cheese whiz. Don't you love how she capitalized it too like a good little corporatist?

CrabbyOldMan said...

I am starting to wonder if Enemas is a plant from some conservative organization.
Enemas’ comments are what one would expect in a conservative caricature of a leftist.

Anonymous said...

Zelda, Queen of BS: Aren't you the one who is all about Cheez Wiz? Isn't it on sale at Sam's Club? Don't you buy it by the case there? Don't feed that to your family, okay? It's really not good for them. You can keep eating it though. That's funny that you think it's highfalutin' to know when to capitalize a word. I would think you would see how it is capitalized when the can is so near your lips all the time. Try it on a cracker sometime.

Zelda said...

Hahaha! You didn't capitalize a word. You capitalized a product name. That would indicate you are familiar with the product, which is hilarious. You suck at this. Stop humiliating yourself. It'll just make you eat more and the government is running out of money to feed you.

Anonymous said...

Zelda, Queen of BS: You do not believe that Cheez Wiz constitutes words no matter how a company has spelled them? Why is it upsetting you that I know how to capitalize words? I read your comment and it doesn't make sense. What else can I expect, though. You're just are a backwoods hick.

Are your words "you suck at this" and "stop humiliating yourself" something you say to hubby a lot or is he saying it to you? Maybe both? Obviously, my talking about Cheez Wiz hits close to home. You aren't very original with comebacks are you? I'll bet your husband used GOVERNMENT BACKED student loans to get through school. What a hypocrite.

CrabbyOldMan said...

Well Enemas, if Zelda's husband used government backed loans to get through school, the whole question is one of whether or not he paid them back in a timely manner.

BEEP BEEP!

Zelda said...

Cheez is not a word. Wiz is not a word. Together they are a product name. One, it would seem, you are familiar with. So go wipe your mouth and apologize for being retarded.

Anonymous said...

Crabs: No, WRONG AGAIN. The whole question is getting help from the government. Republicans say everyone should help themselves and not get help from our government. Don't you recall how angry Zelda, QOBS, gets if she thinks poor people are getting cheese? (Let's overlook that she wants it for herself for the sake of argument). It is called self-reliance. He got a government handout. He should have just worked his way through school no matter how long it would take. Why should we, the taxpayer, help him out?

Zelda, Queen of BS: Did you ever notice that, like Crabs, you do not have much of an imagination in the way of comebacks? You copy people a lot. You are both exactly like parrots! Remember, it was commented that your lips are always near the Cheez Wiz can, but then as a retort you said "wipe your mouth". Do you see how you are not very original? I guess it's because of your lack of a sense of humor. You are far too angry to have one. Your familiarity with Cheez Wiz is absolutely astounding.! I hate to burst your big gigantic bubble, but even a product name is still a word. We read words. Well, I guess, you don't very well but still, you can read a little, can't you? Or does you husband have to read the comments and write them for you?

Zelda said...

You have an odd case of projection and a wordy obsession with cheez wiz. I don't think you're aware of what a nutcase you are.

Anonymous said...

Zelda, Queen of BS: Are those empty cans rolling around on the floor bothering you? You know you can go get some more, don't you. Don't worry, I don't think the government gives out Cheez Wiz. Just real cheese. So there will be plenty left.

I'm sorry. I forgot about your inability to read long sentences. Have you thought about medication yet? Take a reading course if you need to.

Your psychological problems really do get in your way of communicating don't they? You, like Crabs, are quite the parrots. I hope you don't have a drinking problem like he does. It sounds like you do.

Zelda said...

Are you aware that the crazier you sound, the funnier it is?

Anonymous said...

Zelda, Queen of BS: Please don't give us that image of you shaking again. It is really repulsive.

Zelda said...

I have no control over what horrors lurk in your damaged brain. I also don't care.

CrabbyOldMan said...

Zelda, I am still suspicious that Enemas is actually the brain child of some conservative organization. Such a caricature would be a means of further discrediting the left and having fun in the process.

Anonymous said...

Craps is sooo paranoid.

Zelda said...

That's not paranoia. That's optimism.

Anonymous said...

Zelduh, QofBS, is not making any sense once again.

Zelda said...

BabyKiller, he's optimistic that no one could possibly be as stupid as you are.

Zelda said...

If it makes you feel any better, BabyKiller, I think you're every bit as stupid as you appear. :-D

Anonymous said...

Zelduh, QofBS: Otherwise known as Big Batch Baby Killer: you are the one who utters expletives every other post. That, besides your obtuse observations, is the epitome of ignorance.

Zelda said...

Calm down, BabyKiller. You're getting all butthurt over silly things like naughty words when live babies' spinal cords are being severed and their little feet kept as trophies. Your priorities are all wrong.

Anonymous said...

Zelduh QofBs (aka: Big Batch Baby Killer) You are the one who needs a couple of drinks in the morning to keep your hands from shaking. You just slay yourself with saying "naughty" words. When you have an eighth grade mentality and education level as you obviously do, you are easily amused by "naughty" words.

Your priorities are to bomb huge amounts of babies and their families in other countries. And now we find out that you like to talk about their body parts in a casual way to amuse yourself. Weird.

Zelda said...

Blah, blah, blah. You're stalking the wrong person. And there's nothing casual about your abortionist hero saving trophies from his victims. You'd think that would upset you a little, but apparently nothing diverts you from your craziness.

Anonymous said...

Zelduh: You and your merry band of weirdos are the stalkers. You all use filthy expletives at anyone who comes on this site and isn't (thankfully) like you and then have the gaul to call others crazy. It is a given that no one would defend this abortionist. Outside of that demented headcase, the point of all this back and forth is all the republicans on this site care to do is to call Democrats baby killers. We, in kind, call all you republicans big batch baby killers for your war stances.

Zelda said...

You and your merry band of weirdos are the stalkers. You all use filthy expletives at anyone who comes on this site and isn't (thankfully) like you and then have the gaul to call others crazy.

What about this sentence strikes you as coherent, BabyKiller?

Firstly, nobody would ever stalk you. Ever. No one gives a shit about you, or your personal life, or what exactly caused your brain damage. It's just fun to make you mad, because you do go pretty nuts.

Thirdly, it's 'gall', not 'gaul'. For Christ's sake, at least make some effort not to be retarded.

It is a given that no one would defend this abortionist.

Bullshit. You people could not care less whether babies are murdered after botched abortions. That's why abortion clinics are not regulated. Obama has refused to sign legislation to protect babies born alive after abortions. But this doesn't bother you because you're an evil, twisted, moron.

Anonymous said...

Zelduh, BS Queen: Swearing again. Temper, temper. Is it the pounding headaches that does it? You use profanity as filler. You need it to fill in the space for lack of plausible arguments.

You have to find typos because it is the best you can do. Your limp arguments don't stand up to elementary scrutiny. Every time one of you lame brains finds a typo it is evident of your inability to argue your point.

We won't get into all the typos, incorrect grammar and inept punctuation by all the republicans which cause many of their posts to be almost unreadable.

Grace is given because of understanding that most republicans on site seem uneducated, ignorant and, pretty needless to say, ill-tempered.

Why didn't republicans try to change "Roe" while they had the presidency and both Houses?

HERE IS THE MORE THAN OBVIOUS ANSWER: Republicans do not care about abortion except as a fundraiser for churches and politicians.

You are the incoherent one if you think you can get away with saying you care about babies and are pro-life but are pro-war and do not mind bombs dropping on babies, pregnant women and their families.

Bottom line: you are pretending to care about babies when you are pro war that kills babies, pregnant women and their families.

Anonymous said...

P.S. Forgot to call you the Big Batch Baby Killer that you are.

Zelda said...

That wasn't a typo, BabyKiller. You spelled that word wrong because you are amazingly stupid.

Don't you have some fetus feet to pickle? Maybe your friend Gosnell will give you a few jars.

Anonymous said...

Zelduh sure likes to talk about body parts. Weirdo. Compete Weirdo. Listen, dumbotron, you and your fellow weirdos spell and type incorrect sentences everyday. You get one small victory (?) in a typo and you think you have won the lottery. Pathetic loser who continues to lose every argument!

I'm sure you eat lots of pickled items throughout your dreary day.

Quit thinking to body parts for two seconds, will you!