Sunday, January 27, 2013

Two minds: Tyrant and Liberator


What would make me nervous about guns? Kids high on kat at checkpoints carrying AK-47s; that would. A guy in my martial arts class – we study gun defenses, thus study real guns –waving a pistol around like it was a Twinkie; that did. (I shut him down immediately, BTW.) But being in the same room with an Afghan war vet who has his pistol legally concealed and is sitting peaceably? Not so much. But, sooommmmeeee people.

Check this video from an Oak Harbor, Washington, City Council meeting. It is a bit long, though you should watch the entire thing, so here is a synopsis. It does not say what the comment period is about, but the citizen making comment disagrees with some prior comments and says we should teach children how to be safe around guns. He then says that he carries all the time.  Go to 2:08 to hear the absolutely silly remarks by one of the council members. At about 2:30, the Mayor asks the City Attorney for an opinion on questioning the citizen. The CA says there is not requirement for the citizen to answer. However, being an honorable and truthful man, he does at 3:06 in a spectacular way. From then on, we see a glimpse of the mind of a coward and nascent tyrant. The Mayor then makes an incisive query of the CA and follows with a stunning statement regarding rights of citizens and duties of elected officials.


An elected official who get it.

18 comments:

jim marquis said...

Really interesting video, thanks for sharing. I'm curious (and am honestly just asking a question, no agenda here)...are there any situations where rules override carry/conceal permits? For example, a presidential campaign stop or a corporate shareholders meeting?

Rickvid in Seattle said...

Most states restrict firearms from places serving alcohol, and of course, most schools are "Gun Free Zones." Also, most private businesses may restrict guns, if they choose. So, if Jim's Pub would allow concealed carry, but state law forbids it, the state prevails. However, if Nate's Hardware forbids carrying, that, too, prevails. The former is a bit questionable in that, though it might be a good idea to not have guns in bars, it is still an action of the state and runs against the Constitution. The latter is lawful inasmuch as it is not the state that is infringing on concealed carry.
The Racer Cafe, which you may recall was shot up in March, 2012 by a local dipstick here in Seattle, was, and is, a "Gun Free Zone." We see how well that worked out.
One thing we never see is a case where a citizen with lawful carry initiates a criminal action in a bar or "Gun Free Zone." It is always some clown who is not allowed to carry, usually due to past crime. The Feinsteins of the country affect only the law abiding, but actions like hers do get the weak-minded to vote for the ineffectual pols, and they feeeel soooo goooood, even as the bodies pile up and blood flows due to their laws.
Nice looking pooch. A Westie?

CrabbyOldMan said...

The Mayor would never get ellected where I live. He is too competent and probably too honest.

jim marquis said...

Thanks for the clarification.

Yeah, Max is a 3 year old Westie. Bought him as a pup from a nice old couple who live down south of Eugene. We also have an eight year old black Cockapoo named Tess.

You have any dogs?

Fearthuinn min an Saille said...

Sounds like someone who would work great in GA (but given the recent bullshit our State legislature is trying to push through, I question my own statement). We passed HB89, in response to the woman who was kidnapped in the N. GA part of the Appalachian Trail. Concealed carry wasn't permitted on the trail, so her gun was left in her car. That bill changed that, as well as allowing concealed carry on public transportation (without having to notify the driver), in bars and restaurants (with restrictions to the carrier), and a few other places. The BS is what resulted in the Airport argument between the City of Atlanta (democrat bastion in a sea of Republicans) and the State.

BigD said...

This goes to a point, especially the Mayor's comments about his oath, that I've been wondering: Considering the constitutionally required oath taken by the president, and, considering the numerous illegal acts, such as non-recess-recess appointments, and obviously illegal regulatory attempts, that violate the constitution, and thus his oath, it is clear that he is intentionally violating that oath. Did the the writers of the constitution put that oath in the the constitution with the thought that there would be no consequence to violating the oath. I'd say, since they believed such oaths to be as binding as any law, that they would have considered breaking the oat to be equal to treason! Just my .02

free0352 said...

Way to go Mr. MAYOR.

Bram said...

Big D. - They all take the oath and then forget it like it never happened. I wonder how many members of Congress have even read the Constitution.

free0352 said...

That Mayor has.

Rickvid in Seattle said...

Had two Frenchies. Gone now. Sure do miss them often.

Rickvid in Seattle said...

The Constitution is just a collection of negative rights written by, and solely for the benefit of, old white male slave owners, and needs to be replaced with one that grants positive rights, such as that people are given anything they want by the government which grants them rights to a dwelling, food, clothes, medical care, and phones. And pay for it by confiscating the income of the evil rich!
Hey, wait! When you read about the life of slaves, the Master gives the slaves a dwelling, food, clothes, medical care, but not phones. And takes all the produce of their labor. That’s it! We need to replace plantation slavery with national slavery! Make the evil rich work long and hard, take all their money and give it to the reliable voter. A nation of slaves. What a vision!

jim marquis said...

Ah, I love French bulldogs. Especially the ones that looks like they're wearing little burgular masks.

Jpck20 said...

Rick,

Unfortunately most libs actually think like that. It's fucking scary.

Rickvid in Seattle said...

I recall a scene from MASH where Hawkeye has to handle a .45. He gingerly pcks it up by the bottom of the handle using two fingers, all the while making "I'm scared of this" sounds like he's just picked up a live rat. I thought, "Now, that is te way to hurt someone." Sadly, yes, most libs act like that.

Anonymous said...

WOW. that was interesting. i'm glad reason prevailed. i can only imagine the tension in the room. just WOW.
ghostie alix

free0352 said...

Hoplophobia- The irrational fear of weapons or those who wield them.

Hoss said...

I followed a link over to Democrat Underground, and those pussies were urging people to contact the councilman who left the meeting to tell him how brave he was. That p.o.s. leaves like a little bitch, and the left thinks that's bravery. Our two sides will NEVER reconcile.

Jpck20 said...

There is not a single Lib in this country that knows what bravery is.

They cower behind the protection of real men and women.

How does that feel Nate and Jim and Grim/rbb? To know you cower like little pussies every day? Even the weakest girl in the military is infinitely stronger than you miserable pathetic excuses of men.

That's right, we all look down on you idiots with disdain and disgust because you are weak and wouldn't lift a hand to protect anyone besides yourselves.