Thursday, January 03, 2013

The Juxtaposition of Hollywood Celebs

A band of Hollywood celebs were recently featured in a PSA put together by a group called MAYORS AGAINST ILLEGAL GUNS. This group claims they only want to stop ILLEGAL guns:

"Protecting the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding Americans goes hand-in-hand with keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, drug abusers, the seriously mentally ill and other dangerous people. Mayors Against Illegal Guns advocates for common-sense measures that will close deadly gaps in our gun laws and make sure law enforcement agencies have the tools they need to detect and deter gun trafficking. We have worked with more than 100 survivors and family members of gun violence victims in public campaigns to push for solutions from Washington."



Though, the PSA doesn't convey that "illegal gun" message. After watching the PSA, I wasn't sure at all what the celebs were advocating for....other than an ambiguous "plan." Most people aren't going to explore 3-5 different links the way I did...

And, therefore, the celeb message rubbed some folks the wrong way.

A rebuttal PSA was made that elucidates the seeming hypocrisy with these celebs that earn a bulk of their $$$ by portraying (glorifying?) violence (NOT work safe or small child appropriate):



I would like a "plan" for everything. But just stating that isn't very helpful. Probably should have donated the money it took to gather the celebs and make the PSA to the families of Sandy Hook...

23 comments:

Rickvid in Seattle said...

Every plan must start with a goal, no matter how vague, then get that goal carefully refined. Your goal is to "go on a nice vacation," let's say. You hone that to a ski trip. Then to Park City, Utah. Your goal is to go on a ski trip to park City. Now, and only now, can you actually formulate a plan that gets you time off work, transportation to Park City, a place to stay there, funds for the trip, things to do, etc.

What is the goal of these folks? It cannot stay at the "nice vacation" stage. It will resolve itself into something more concrete. Keep an eye out for that.

As for working with "100 survivors and family members of gun violence victims," I don't mean to sound harsh, but what gives them expertise in actual public policy? A very few, maybe, have detatched themselves emotionally enough to think things through, but I don't want an angry and emotional-filled survivor or relative to be the primary basis of laws that tell me how to live.

CrabbyOldMan said...

I completely agree with Rickvid in Seattle.
I can predict who lacks the common sense to also agree.

Aisha Tanner said...

First time seeing both videos.

Demand a Plan video seems straight forward they want responsible gun use. They just want Big Government to force it on everyone.

The second video is trying to say that these celebs are hypocrites. Except none of the celebs has ever shot anyone in real life. It is possible (and common) to play a slave master or Nazi in a movie and still be against slavery and Nazism.

Video 1 misguided emotional response.
Video 2 just wrong and fails to prove any point.

Is there a 3rd video of puppies playing I like those.

Bram said...

I've never shot anyone in real life (came close in the Gulf War). Why should the emotional response of a bunch of actors have any effect on me and my First Amendment Rights?

Rickvid in Seattle said...

Aisha, the point is the lack of honesty and integrity on the part of actors who make violence a major part of their professional lives, even feigned violence, then complain that the "culture" of violence is bad. No, an actor who plays Hitler is not advocating Hitlerism, of course, but if he plays Adolph time and again, glorifies who he was and what he did, then decries Hitlerism, well, you gotta wonder.
John Wayne played bad guys occasionally, but never to glorify them or to tout their way of being. He did play very rough men at times, and did tout that occasionally, and to good effect.
Integrity would have these actors stop playing gun slinging characters, tell their own body guards to cease carrying, tell studios and stop using armed guards, and advocate total disarmament of their co-workers and places of work. But then, they are Hollywood.

free0352 said...

I have a plan. Burn these pontificating assholes in effigy and stop watching their movies.

Bram said...

Agree except for the effigy part.

(Although I refuse to stop watching Game of Thrones)

Jethro said...

Take a good look at gun sales lately. The gun control crowd has put more guns on the street, homes of citizens, etc. because of their emotional outbursts.

I walked into Bass Pro Shops, Academy Sports and Outdoors, and Walmarts. The only guns left for sale are bolt action hunting rifles and shot guns. All semi-autos were sold out....completely. More people are armed with assault rifles today than a couple weeks ago.

Why do you think that is?

Rickvid in Seattle said...

Jethro, same here in good ol' blue lefty ever-tolerant PC do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do Seattle. One guy MIGHT be able to get in some steel cased South African .223.

Zelda said...

Aisha - You miss the point. If their aim is to curtail violence, why don't they forego acting in movies that entice nutjobs into acting out violently? They retardedly avoid that subject, offer no specific plan, and just generally sound like morons.

Hoss said...

Rick and Jethro, just try and find some .223 ammo around Indiana, even the internet is virtually dry. Want some high-capacity magazines, good luck. Can't remember if it was S&W's CEO, but one of the bigger manufacturers said they had sold 3 and 1/2 years worth of high-capacity magazine stock in 2 weeks. Say that again....3 1/2 years worth in 2 weeks. I've got an order for some more 30-round Pmags, but I don't expect I'll ever see them. At least not until about July.

Rickvid in Seattle said...

Hoss, ditto. The more these statists whine, moan, complain, and threaten to use the lash of the state to force people to conform to their opinion of how we should live, the more free people tell them to go to hell. Molon labe.

free0352 said...

If we must fight to defend our rights, lets not target honotable if misguided soldiers and police officers. Instead i say we decimate the rqnks of the Hollywood elite like a biblical plauge. Lets start with that traitor sean penn. Down a few Hollywood groupies, this star fucking President of ours withvhiw womanly nature anr tedency to bow profusely at strength wpuld surely capitulate within hours of the attack.

free0352 said...

Btw never blog with a smart phone!

CrabbyOldMan said...

Free0352:
My ultimate insult is to say that your spelling/typing is almost as bad as mine. I have to use word to check my typing.

CrabbyOldMan said...

Free0352:
I very strongly agree that it is reprehensible for social protesters to target police or military people who are earniing what we pay them by following orders. I just as strongly agree that targeting the opinion makers and policy makers is the appropriate course.

CrabbyOldMan said...

The people who run that New York paper that published the names and addresses of gun permit holders need to get sued at a minimum and most justly have their balls nailed to a tree stump (and then be kicked over backwards).

Anonymous said...

"The people who run that New York paper that published the names and addresses of gun permit holders need to get sued at a minimum and most justly have their balls nailed to a tree stump (and then be kicked over backwards)."

And the ones that ought to be filing a claim are people not on that list. Now everyone knows who doesn't have the means to defend themselves. They are now at greater risk than they where before.

RufussVa

RonF said...

I am still trying to figure out why I or anyone should give two seconds of attention to the political or social opinions of entertainers. In the case of actors and actresses they are people whose profession is to get paid to mouth words that someone else wrote and fake sincerity regardless of whether they believe them or not. In the case of sports they gained their notoriety by achieving physical facility while minimizing intellectual development and prioritizing short-term results over long-term effects.

Anonymous said...

Its time that PARENTS stop allowing Hollywood to raise their kids!

ENOUGH

Rich

free0352 said...

Thats hard to do when parents are AT WORK all day.

Roboto said...

Thats hard to do when parents are AT WORK all day.

To pay taxes so that the Gimmedats can buy votes...

Zelda said...

Thats hard to do when parents are AT WORK all day.

Which is why you need to give your children to the state. They don't work, so they have plenty of time to raise your kids.