Friday, November 09, 2012

You Can't Fight Free Stuff...

Not even with your Libertarian cape on.


Bram said...

That is why I've come to despise every form of welfare and entitlement. They are all nothing more than schemes to use my money to buy votes for people who hate me.

Jim and Nate will worry about the "safety net". But it's more like a comfy hammock.

End it all on the Federal level. States can do as they please.

Rickvid in Seattle said...

From asking what you can do for your country to "Gimme my free shit and make some other guy pay for it! NOW!"

Nate said...

Odd how all of the poorest states in the US consistently vote Republican.

Zelda said...

When the poor make more in handouts than social workers, there might just be somewhat of a problem. Don't count on Democrats to see, much less fix that.

Bram said...

Nate - How are you defining poor? Try raising a family in NJ, CT, or MA on $80k, that's poor.

Anonymous said...

As usual, when all else fails, blame the poor. As Jon Stewart said 'there was an avalanche on bullshit mountain'. Soooo great to watch Roves meltdown and Limbaughs head explode. happy days!

ALa said...

Anon: You and Nate make the same mistake. Poor and lazy are two different things. The Man and I have at times in our marriage have been very poor...but never lazy. You can take a hand, but you should never expect it, rely on it or vote based on it. That is disgraceful and inexcusable. Falling on hard times is human...getting through them and thriving USED TO BE American.

CrabbyOldMan said...

I think I need to explain something to Nate.
I have lived in both “poor” and “rich” states. The choice of living in either involves choosing from among a basket of quality of life factors. There are trade-offs.
I suggest that the Republican states have the most satisfied inhabitants, and they vote conservative because they like things the way they are for the most part.
I do not doubt that the red states have lower per capita income according to the statistics. What the statistics do not reflect are what they DO NOT have. Those things are the ills that come with the urban mob, the vicious “proletariat” that the founding fathers so mistrusted. Since the economic burden of crime, corruption and welfare is lower, so are taxes, which accounts for part of the apparent disparity in income.

Anonymous said...

The problem is that the majority of Americans are very hard working, not lazy, and are trying their best to get by. But when you have people in the media drilling false info into peoples heads, telling lies about a trillion dollars being spent on welfare, it's just not true. This election showed that you can't suppress the vote to win, you can't call Americans lazy and win, and you can't just rely on the old white man to win, those days are over. BTW the Red States do have the highest welfare recipients...

Jpck20 said...

If I were a betting man, I would wager that while red states may be 'poorer' than blue states, their cost of living is a hell of a lot lower.

free0352 said...

funny thing about socialism, you eventually run out of other people's money.

I find it endlessly funny that people who drone on endlessly about "sustainability" can't figure out what 15 trillion in debt means.

All that welfare is going to end, sooner rather than later. And I'll be there, laughing and making money off it.

CrabbyOldMan said...

Anonymous, what is your source?

Bram said...

Jpck20 - Just do an internet search for "state cost of living calculator."

There are several of them on the internet. You will quickly understand why people flee from New York, MA, and NJ the day they retire.

Anonymous said...

15 trillion in debt thanks to Bush.

CrabbyOldMan said...

"...thanks to Bush."
At first I was joking, now I'm starting to think that you really are in the cuckoo's nest, or at least should be.

CrabbyOldMan said...

I'm still waiting for your source.

Charles Foxtrot said...

Two comments:

First $15T in debt under Bush? I don't think so.

Second, perhaps the reason the poorest states keep voting Republican is that they really believe in Republican ideals. Maybe they realize that liberal programs really do keep poor people poor.

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