Saturday, November 17, 2012

RIP Twinkie


29 comments:

CrabbyOldMan said...

I'll cry tears the size of horse turds.
Those union people have to be the most clueless souls on earth. I have no sympathy for them at all.
I don't remember ever having eaten a Twinkie.

Zelda said...

Looks like they'll be having an Obama Christmas.

Rickvid in Seattle said...

The Union won, Hostess and the workers lost. Now, next time, the Union can look at the employers and remind them that the Union will sacrifice the workers and kill the company in order to win. The Union hopes to intimidate companies by showing them that the workers are just chattle, cannon fodder, martyrs to the cause in the eyes of the Union. Some day, maybe, the workers will rise up and overthrow the scum who run the Unions and a real free trade union movement might take its place. But don't count on it. As long as the Unions give money to the Democrats, and our apathetic electorate helps put the Obamunists into power all over the nation by voting for third party losers, if at all, the Union scum will continue to oppress the workes and kill companies. All Hail Obama, eh?

jim marquis said...

You conveniently forgot to mention the other part of the story... http://americablog.com/2012/11/hostess-twinkie-ceo-salary.html

Rickvid in Seattle said...

Poor Jimmie, drawn onto a rabbit trail of irrelevance again. That article says the execs upped their "salaries" while preparing to take Hostess into bankruptcy. How odd, kill the goose laying your golden egg. Utter claptrap. Now, did they empty the company's accounts and pocket the dough? No, not according to the dimwit author. So, they got big salaries, money that comes in over time, and ensured there would be no future time for money to come it? Hmmmm....

And, irrelevant anyhow. The Union told the workers to hold fast. Hostess warned them of what would happen. The Union told the workers to hold the line. Hostess did what it said it would do. Lots of workers out of jobs, execs with a dead company, investors out to dry, but the Union bosses still have their big fat assed salaries and a win for future considerations.

Really, Jim, try to think things through instead of swallowing the garbage so quickly.

Anonymous said...

Marquis, this is always the case, the greedy CEOs get everything and the poor schmucks doing the crappy job gets nothing...then they blame it on the unions. If it wasn't for the UNIONS my Irish ancestors never would have survived.

ALa said...

Jim & Anon:

You elucidate the crux of the ideological difference between the Left and the Right. All you see is what other people have and how you can take some of theirs. Do you think the people in that plant are qualified to do any of what that CEO does? Do you think if they had worked as hard as he and were as educated as he, they would be in the plant working a Ding Dong machine instead of in a corner office working deals? In America they have a chance to get CEO salaries by working their butts off and becoming a CEO.

Are there CEOs that are corrupt and take advantage and are there overqualified factory workers just there because they're down on their luck? Of course! But is this the majority? I don't think so.

What they do and earn has nothing to do with the CEO or his/her salary. They aren't comparable positions and I can't understand why it doesn't seem absurd to factor one into the other...

Glenn Cassel said...

Your last reply is dead on.
Apples and oranges and so many refuse to make that connection.
Outstanding.

CrabbyOldMan said...

ALa and Rickvid are spot on, but their comments are almost certainly wasted on nitwits like Enemas and jim.

Hoss said...

It's funny how the lefties never seemed to care about all the democrats at Fannie and Freddie holding onto their fat salaries and huge bonuses as they were sinking the ship, and sinking the ship, and sinking the ship. Don't care about that since it's only taxpayer dollars getting flushed down the shitter.

Rickvid in Seattle said...

Good point, Hoss. The double standard and hypocrisy are obvious, but not to those who choose to not see the truth.

Anonymous said...

Hoss, it's always up to the lefties to rescue the sinking ships after the righties get their hands on them. Did CEOs in the 70's and 80's not work as hard and that's why they didn't make multi-million dollar salaries? Lazy bums. The CEO of today works soooo much harder than anyone, they deserve 5 houses, car elevators, race horses, million dollar bonus checks...the lower class schmuck should be happy with their 10k, after all, it's their own fault that their parents couldn't 'give them a loan'.....
If anyone needs an enema(s) it's the Crabbyoldman.

Rickvid, by voting for Romney, you choose not to "see the truth"

CrabbyOldMan said...

OFF TOPIC OFF TOPIC OFF TOPIC
This was a headline on this morning’s Marxocrat rag

“ISRAEL WIDENS ATTACK ON GAZA
Egypt sought a cease-fire amid unrelenting airstrikes, rocket attacks”

No wonder the Obamacrats swept Minnesota.

CrabbyOldMan said...

Enemas, can you point to an actual example of the leftards ever rescuing anything?
Having been a lower class schmuck myself, I can tell you why most of the people doing factory work are doing so. Its' because they are unqualified to do anything better.
By what passes for thought among your ilk, any desire that the schmucks have to better themselves must be due to "GREED". Accordingly, unions must be morally reprehensible.

Anonymous said...

http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/12703-applebees-ceo-and-millionare-zane-tanko-vs-working-americans

Make sure you click on highlighted castle, so you can see where the greedy hog from Papa Johns lives. You can see why he would have to lay off people...

Examples of left rescues? Well, since we don't hate the federal government we rescue you after the monthly natural disasters that we are experiencing. Obama rescued thousands of auto jobs, We've also rescued you from food poisoning, filthy drinking water and polluted air. You see, the precious CEOs that you love to protect would love to put melamine in your food if they could get away with it. Think of BP and the Gulf happening daily because you all hate regulation.

We are the only country in the world that allows GMO in the food chain, hopefully us "lefties" will be able to change that too.

Thank lefties for demanding that women earn equal pay, and also being "rescued" from vaginal probes that they would be expected to pay for.

We also rescued you from another president that would do absolutely nothing for you.

Nothing could be more "morally reprehensible" than the CEOs like above mentioned...stop blaming the poor and the unions for everything and open your eyes.

CrabbyOldMan said...

ENEMMAS, YOU LAST RANT CAN BE CONDENSED INTO:
1. It just isn't fair that some people have more money than others, whether they earned it or not, and whether their misfortune is self inflicted or not.
2. The only rescue you can think of is Obama ripping off legitimate creditors and the taxpayers to bail out his UAW cronies. That does not qualify because the underlying problems were not solved. The UAW will be back for more.
3. You may want to seek proffesional help to avoid suffering a burst blood vessel.

Rickvid in Seattle said...

COM, you are good for a giggle. These twits suck Truther swill & call us nutters. "Gimme my free shit NOW! You owe me!" Sum it up?

Zelda said...

If the CEO took no salary at all, it wouldn't have saved Hostess. That's almost always the case. Lefties point to the producers, managers, and innovators - without whom there would be no company - to cover for the failures and greed of the unions and their worker minions.

This underscores the ultimate goal of Leftism which is not jobs for everyone, but equal pay for everyone regardless of their job.

Nate said...

Apparently Hostess is being accused of taking workers self funded pension to pay off debts. I personally would like to know salaries and benefits before rushing to judgement.

Navig8r said...

Try to ship that Twinkie via U.S. Merchant Marine. Oh yeah, they had a union, too. Maybe you can find a ship registered in Liberia, crewed by Filipinos.

Haverwilde said...

Just a couple of comments:

The Teamsters Union warned the smaller union that the company would shut down and recommended that they have a secret ballot election.

In a big strike, anger and violence is always a possibility. You would have to pay me a large sum to put up with that. Executives working in those situations deserve the increased salary, because of the threats and the likelihood of only a short term position.

Hoss said...

" Did CEOs in the 70's and 80's not work as hard and that's why they didn't make multi-million dollar salaries?" -Anony'

Did professional athletes and movie stars make millions of dollars a year back in the 70's and 80's? It's called the market place, and obviously the various skills of these people are in demand in the market or they wouldn't be receiving the money they are getting. On the other hand, some guy that has a job that you can learn by lunch on your first day probably doesn't have a whole lot of marketable skills if any. If he does, he will move up in the hierarchy.

And what exactly did anyone at Fannie and Freddie save besides a money pit that keeps sucking up billions of taxpayer dollars. And yeah, Obama saved GM - that's how leftist credit goes: use someone else money to do something, and you take the credit. That was really brave of him...those are the "gifts" that Romney was walking about.

Rickvid in Seattle said...

Let's see, if GM had gone bankrupt, the left tells us the doors would be closed and windows shuttered, and everyone on unemployment. Only the financially ignorant, or those who lie to the ignorant, say this is so. GM would have been re-organized, its horrific contracts renegotiated to something within reason, and they'd be making vehicles that meet market demand with a sustainable business model. Instead, the Unions got their bailout and kept contracts that keep GM “a retirement plan with a car company attached to it” and turning out many types of cars that must be heavily subsidized or forcibly sold to government agencies at exorbitant cost, a business model that cannot last. Layoffs are inevitable. The left's failure-win at its best.

free0352 said...

Atlas is shrugging, good luck with that socialism thing.

Anonymous said...

No one expects or has been given more "gifts" than Romney and his cronies. You voted for someone who thinks the wealthy are entitled to lots of free "gifts"' they despise people like you, don't you realize that?

Crabbyoleman, can't you read? Do you and Romney not have to drink the same water and breathe the same air as the rest of us!?

Zelda said...

Oh please. Romney's cronies will get more from Obama as long as they promise to waste as much taxpayer money as possible. And no one expects more "gifts" than Obama's bundlers. Ever heard of Solyndra? LightSquared? There are many others. So don't pretend you give a shit about corporate cronyism.


CrabbyOldMan said...

Enemas, can you give a couple of examples of the gifts Romney and his cronies have received?
Of course we all drink the same water and breath the same air. Are you trying to say that Romney wants everyone to have polluted water and air? If so, you really are a looney tunes.

Anonymous said...

How about HUGE TAX BREAKS that they want to continue forever?!
Did you know that the 6 heirs to the Walton fortune have more wealth then 42% of the bottom? Six people made 15 BILLION in profits last year. A clerk at WalMart needs to work SIX long years to make above ten dollars an hour. With 4500 stores they have the power to lift the economy, if they paid a living wage, above $12 an hr., they would pull thousands out of poverty, and most of those wages would go back to Walmart. Please stop pretending that people like the Walton's have worked hard and deserve billions while their workers have crappy hours, can't afford their health insurance and are punished if they complain. Sam Walton must be rolling in his grave.

Since WalMart destroys towns they have more responsibility to do the right thing. I hope the Unions come in...I

I'm sure Romney is for fracking, it means billions for his friends...


CrabbyOldMan said...

Enemas, do you work for Walmart? Are you a union organizer? Are you just bitter because you have a real shitty job?
If Walmart increased wages, it would have to correspondingly raise prices. Raising prices would undo "Pay less, live better" which would mean fewer stores, fewer employees, fewer low priced goods for Walmart's customers...
What kind of replacement jobs do you think those underpaid Walmart clerks would find?
Your utter ignorence of economics is just breathtaking!